I think he was saying 4.7 grains of titegroup at 1140 fps, which sounds maybe a little faster than my guns will shoot it, and a little hotter than I\’d want to shoot it in my guns, but I also run 4.5 grains of titegroup in .3575\” XTP loads. So it might be something worth working up to and checking into. Titegroup is very widely available in my region and HS-6 being my secondary powder is very rare.