Not sure what kind of load you are looking for but I just started using these for idpa.
To make 125 power factor I am using Titegroup
@ 3.4 grains.
Getting 934fps average in a walther pdp 4”
Makes a power factor of 127
Nice soft shooting
low recoil
I’m sure you could push them much harder
If desired
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