Idaho Silver 9mm 120 JHP *Nuke* (Read Full Description Before Ordering)
$55.00 – $1,751.00
Description
Idaho Silver 9mm 120 JHP *Nuke* (Same dimensions as the 124 grain NUKE) Use load data for a 124 grain bullet.
Unfortunately, these aren’t actually silver bullets. These jackets are made with a zinc and copper alloy (very high % of zinc and low % of copper). They look absolutely beautiful and they shoot really really well. They are jacketed to the same thickness as our copper jacketed bullets. They are also made to the same dimensions as our copper jacketed bullets. However, zinc has some differences that you will want to be aware of if you are going to buy and load these. First, zinc is lighter and softer than copper. That is why these are less weight than our other copper jacketed bullets even though they are the exact same dimensions. We recommend that when loading these you use load data for the heavier bullet that has the same dimensions.
Furthermore, zinc is about half as hard as copper. Being a softer material, it requires some special care when reloading. First, you will not want to overcrimp these at all. Zinc does not have the elasticity of copper so whatever you crimp into it, it will go down to. You can actually undersize the bullets just by crimping too hard. Secondly, you will want to only load these in brass cases. We tested these in aluminum cases and because both zinc and aluminum don’t have much elasticity, we experienced very excessive bullet setback. This wasn’t entirely unexpected since the companies selling aluminum ammo load only copper jacketed bullets for that exact reason. Aluminum cases are tempermental. We haven’t had a chance to test them in steel cases but I assume they will probably have similar issues as the aluminum. If you decide to try it in anything other than brass, do it at your own risk. We’ve tested thousands and thousands from brass cases and they load and shoot very similar to the copper jacketed ones.
We did notice that in some guns the fouling was variable. It doesn’t foul quite like copper does. In some guns we found little to no fouling at all. In other guns it left little flakes of the jacket that look like fine glitter when you pull a bore snake through. What fouling is left, looks very similar to copper fouling (maybe a little more). We tested the Montana Xtreme Copper Killer solvent on the fouling and it seemed to work really really well on the zinc. Because of the variable fouling from gun to gun, we recommend that you run a bore snake through the barrel every couple hundred rounds or as needed.
Tarnish is a concern with zinc. We use a car wash wax on all our bullets to help prevent oxidation, but if you leave these in a wet or humid environment they will tarnish rather quickly. Like with all ammo components, store these in the driest condistions possible.
One last thing. We sent a bunch of these to a couple competitors to run them through their paces. We got a report that the grease rings these left in paper targets are much harder to see and a grumpy RO might not want to give you the points if it’s close to the perf.
So, why zinc? Well, it’s much cheaper than copper and I’m so sick of inflation that I just felt that if there was a way I could make the price go DOWN instead of up, then I had done my duty to mankind. Anyway, if you buy these please come back and leave a review after you’ve received and tested them. This could be a real game changer.
Oh, and if you have a question about barrel wear, we shot about 7000 of these through a single firearm and saw no noticeable wear. Zinc is much softer than copper and it is supposed to be slicker as well. If you buy enough of these to wear out your barrel, I would love to know how many it took to wear it out.
Additional information
| Count | 500, 1,000, 2,000, 3,000, 12,000, 21,000 |
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27 reviews for Idaho Silver 9mm 120 JHP *Nuke* (Read Full Description Before Ordering)
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Fran (verified owner) –
Just loaded and shot 100 rds. through my Glock 26 with a KKM barrel , accuracy was as good as copper jacketed bullets, no feeding issues.
There was some fouling, wire brush and Hoppes Elite gun cleaner took care of the fouling. Thanks for a great product.
Mike Drougas (verified owner) –
just received them they look great I haven’t loaded any yet but have a question you mention not to load in aluminum cases but can you load them in NICKEL cases???
I’ll be loading some soon and would like to know
thanks some much
I’ve bought many of your bullets and haven’t been disappointed ever
take care
Jacob Wilcox –
There is no reason you shouldn’t be able to load them in nickel cases. Nickel cases are just brass cases with a nickel plating.
P-man (verified owner) –
loaded 10 – kept the same load as the 124 nukes – gained roughly 50 fps – didn’t notice fouling due to the low round count. Small amount of noticeable gain of recoil – to be expected. Shot flat, no dial of my dot, I’ll shoot more.
Eric –
Can I use this for my open gun? With a velocity of more than 1350?
Sandra –
Yes you can.
Tracy Phelps –
Had a chance to shoot 50 each out of my Sig 1911 and Canik TP9SFX. Excellent results! No feeding issues, good accuracy, consistent velocities and minimal fouling that cleaned up easily. I think you’re on to something here!
KingD (verified owner) –
Excellent projectiles indeed! Nice , shiny , and accurate as all get out. Loaded as suggested and found the sweet spot first try! Lol little bit of noticeable fouling but nothing to fret over. And they sure do look B-E-A-utiful in some shined up all pretty-like nickel plated brass. Excellent job y’all! Shoot straight, stay safe!
James Dague (verified owner) –
I shot 100 of them this afternoon. 4gr of Titegroup out of my Beretta 92FS. Fantastic results at 25 yards. Barrel didn’t have any more fouling than what I have with copper jackets , and Hoppe’s took care of it. I’ll definitely be buying more of these.
Fatboy (verified owner) –
Jake once again you have hit it outta the park with these seeds!!!! I bought and loaded 500 of them over 4.2grs of titegroup OAL at 1.076 haven’t chrono them yet but they shoot lights out. I use the same load data for your 124s I shot all but 50 of them and haven’t noticed any issues with fouling etc..To be fair I don’t clean after every use once a month is good for me. They are so good I just ordered 2000 more. Thank you all at RMR for your great work and a great product!!!
Mike Drougas (verified owner) –
Shot some thru my Shield, my Shield plus and my full size m and p no problems at all. Nice groups
Used Winchester 231 4.0 grains powder OAL of 1.060.
I’m going to load some with titegroup next and then CFE Pistol. I’ll let y’all know how it goes
Nick Mardirosian (verified owner) –
If you’re a competitive shooter and shoot high volumes these are a no go. Initially I was very hopeful as accuracy was good but after shooting only 250 rounds the barrel in my MPA was so fouled I couldn’t see the rifling. Hopefully they can perfect the recipe.
Jacob Wilcox –
We’ve gotten some feedback that makes me think there could be a reason you’re getting more fouling than some others. Is it possible the crimp you are putting on them is sizing them down and you’re getting blow by? If so, that could be causing the fouling. I shot about 500 through one of my 2011s and while I found some fouling, it definitely wasn’t affecting accuracy and it wasn’t filling up the rifling.
cbmay48 (verified owner) –
Loaded up 100 of the new 120 gr 9mm bullets with the silver zinc alloy jackets. I had to seat the bullets to a 1.04” overall length to get them to plunk and spin in the short throat of my CZ P-09 barrel. Given the reduced powder space from the deep seating, I decided to load 4.6 gr of BE-86 with CCI-500 primers. Shot 20 through a Glock 19 and 5 through the CZ P-09. Ran fine, minimal fouling (will run more next trip). Was pleased with accuracy on steel plates at 15 and 25 yards. Will order a thousand soon.
Mike Little L1480 (verified owner) –
Loaded in 357 Sig,in a 6” Glock 24. Got up to 1600 fps with great accuracy. Shot in my G32 (4”) carry Glock got 1460 fps(useing 9,0 Sr4756). In 10% ballistic glentin got full 12” penatation an full expansion with no brackup.go to this zinc alloy for rest of bullets when you are able.who ever though that cheaper was better.
Keith A Karschner (verified owner) –
From a price and performance standpoint, definitely a 5 star. These are also a great EXPANDING bullet that looks as nice as it works. I loaded 4.2 Titegroup with OAL at 1.090 with no issues at all. I might need to go to OAL of 1.060 for my CZ 75. I’m ordering more while I can cause as luck would have it, these bullets are very accurate also.
Tommy R (verified owner) –
The word is out on these bullets! Loaded 500 of them using the same load data as the 124 Grain Copper Jacketed Nukes. They all shot accurate with NO feeding issues out of a full size Metal M&P 2.0 , 2 compact Sig P320s, and full size Colt 1911 Custom Competition model. Loaded them all with W231 4.4 grains. Did not notice any more fouling then regular Copper JHP or RN bullets. Jake, please keep making them and keep the prices as they are for as long as you can afford it. Just ordered another 2000 of them. Now my new go to bullet!
WALTER SCHOENNAUER (verified owner) –
Jake, over the last 2 years since I found RMR, I have been very impressed with your products and pricing. I’ve loaded 23k+ RMR rounds personally, and another 20k with friends from the club. My club hosts Armed Women of America, and they do an annual pumpkin shoot. I always donate some Nukes to the cause and they do a great job killing pumpkins. I just loaded 5k of these silver Nukes to test out and so far, they are working great. This year I’m looking to expand into .380 and .38/357 on my Mark7 machines. Nobody gets close to RMR quality or value. Keep up the good work.
Sean (verified owner) –
I loaded a test bunch of these, and they worked great! I used accurate 5 powder with an overall length of 1.060. I shot them through a Hellcat, a VP9, and a Glock 19 with no issues with feeding or fouling.
Tracy Zuver (verified owner) –
I decided to try these. Why not, the price was good. Received them and they looked great and weighed perfect. Loaded 100 of them up, shot them through my Glock with no problems. Wonderful results so I loaded 900 more. Can’t wait to shoot these up. Will be ordering more of them.
erik saldana (verified owner) –
love them! I have shot around 5K through both of my limcat sabrecats with no issues. I chroned them at 1400 avg. ( for a practice round) Thanks for producing them, and getting the costs down. As an open shooter the cost of practicing is getting a little crazy, you lowering the cost of at least one component is awesome! I hope you will make some that are 121 so they will be ok to use in IPSC. Thanks again , Erik
Brett Miller (verified owner) –
Shot 100 out of my Kimber 1911 9mm with no issues. Load was W231 and an OAL of 1.070”. Functioned well and left very little residue in the barrel. Will certainly purchase again!
Patrick Kennedy (verified owner) –
Beautiful bullet. Remember Winchester Silvertips? Please expand the line into 40 S&W at 175 gr. Shoot great using SB-620 at 5.2 gr and 1200 fps with OAL at 1.08. Thank you!
Scott D Miller (verified owner) –
So far so good. I bought 3K during the Christmas sale and after loading a few test loads and making a range trip I couldn’t be happier!! I love how RMR is always looking out for us guys and gals, and saving some $$$ on a quality product is always a formula for repeat sales! Keep up the great work and Thank you RMR!
bangorang16 (verified owner) –
I like these bullets!
I was looking for an affordable JHP, that wouldn’t foul the compensator on my PC9 for Steel Challenge.
After 1k rounds of the 120 Silver Nuke at 1100 fps, the comp looked great and the bore cleaned up easy with Sweets.
Thanks to Jake and RMR for taking a chance on these. The world would be a dreary place without innovators willing to take risks.
I ordered 2k more.
Don Abernathey (verified owner) –
They are great price but they crud my bores worse than hardcast. My load is 5.4gr of Silhouette, COL=1.065″ and very mild taper crimp. I’ve shot about 100 of them so far between two pistols. Although the bores gunk up, the accuracy seems to hold. No keyholing. I’ve shot 50 rounds straight before cleaning. Hard to clean, had to use Barnes CR10 with 2 soakings and a Chore Boy wrapped brush.
Jacob Wilcox –
We’ve had a couple guys say they fire some copper jacketed rounds through their guns after shooting these and most of it comes right out. I tried it and it works pretty well. As far as cleaning goes, I was able to clean 99.9% of it out by soaking the barrel in Montana Xtreme copper killer and pushing a bore brush through it a few times. Then a bore snake right after and it was spotless.
Lewis E Medlin (verified owner) –
I’ve been testing the new zinc alloy 120 gr. Nuke jacketed bullets in several of my 9mm pistols with good results. The only thing I’ve noticed is a little more clean up is required. Things changed when I tried them in a Ruger LCR 9mm revolver the little 1.85″ barrel took me over an hour to clean after firing about 30 rounds. I thought my reloading process might be sizing down the softer zinc bullets so I pulled a few bullets and measured them they were .3552″. I ejected a few moon clips after firing three rounds and saw bullets four and five were jumping out of the cartridge case. That has never happend when shooting RMR 115 gr. FMJ in that revolver. The LCR is my only 9mm revolver and I don’t shoot it much so it’s no big deal but it is a bit puzzling.
Rudy Watts (verified owner) –
I shoot all of your zink bullets, about 80 to 100 a day. I have tryed every thing to get the zink out. I had a 40 barrel that was pretty bad so I shot about 30 rounds of copper FMJ ammo through it. It took about 90 % of the zink out then I used a chemical with a copper brilo pad on a bronze brush and got almost all of it.
Ron Bruce (verified owner) –
Jake, I may not ever buy copper jacketed bullets from you again, as long as these high zinc content are available. Got outstanding accuracy through a Dan Wesson DXC Compact and a S&W Shield on the 38’s. Same for the 225gr .45 ball through a Sig P227. Thanks,and keep it up.
Ron Bruce (verified owner) –
Jake, I may never buy anything other than your high zinc content bullets ever again. I got outstanding performance and accuracy through my Dan Wesson DWX compact and a S&W Shield. Same for the 225gr .45 ACP bullets through a Sig P227. Keep up the great work.